title: "Class 31 — Michael Jackson Chart, Narayana Dasha of Divisional Charts" class_number: 31 source_file: v31.txt tags: [vedic-astrology, jyotisha, narayana-dasha, dasamsa, vimshamsa, sthitipravesa, michael-jackson, bandhana-sahamam, d24, occult-knowledge, imprisonment, annual-chart]

🕉️ Class 31 — Michael Jackson's Chart & Narayana Dasha of Divisional Charts

Using Michael Jackson's natal chart to demonstrate Sthitipravesa (annual charts), Narayana Dasha of divisional charts, and D24 Narayana Dasha for occult learning — culminating in a bold prediction of imprisonment and later redemption through Venus Dasha.

📋 Table of Contents

  1. Opening — Mantra Discussion
  2. Review of Previous Prediction — Vikram Singh
  3. Q&A — Foreign Travel Indicators
  4. Puzzle Chart — Michael Jackson
  5. Dasamsa Analysis — Career & Image
  6. Navamsa — Singing Ability
  7. Sthitipravesa Annual Charts — Imprisonment Outlook
  8. Vimshottari Dasha — Ketu, Venus Dasha
  9. Narayana Dasha of Dasamsa
  10. D24 Narayana Dasha — Learning & Occult Knowledge
  11. Philosophy — Fate, Free Will, and Remedies

🪔 Opening — Mantra Discussion

The class opens with group chanting. A student queries whether the Kamala Bija mantra uses "hasau" or merely "sau" before visarga. The teacher confirms it is "Hasau" — "Ha + sau + visarga" — and that this construction appears in many mantras, not just this one.

[!NOTE] This is a parampara-specific detail. Different initiations may use "sau" alone. What matters is what one's own guru has given.


✅ Review — Vikram Singh Prediction Vindicated

From ~2 weeks prior (January 30 class), the class had analyzed the chart of Vikram Singhji (who posted a puzzle on the Vedic Astrology mailing list). The class:

  • Correctly identified he was laid off from his job.
  • Correctly identified that the actual activity happened in early January (even though the formal event was Jan 27–28).
  • Correctly predicted he would find a contract position between January 29 and February 6.

Vikram confirmed all of this was 100% correct.


❓ Q&A — Foreign Travel Indicators

Question: Must Rahu be in the 9th house to show foreign travel in Narayana Dasha?

Answer:

"It doesn't have to be Rahu in the ninth. It could be Rahu in the twelfth, or it could just be that ninth lord is with Rahu."

Key houses: 9th and 12th house are the two foreign-travel houses. Rahu is the karaka for foreign places (Pardesha).

🏢 Project Manager Analogy (Revisited)

Astrological Element Organisational Analogy
Planets in 9th house Team members working hands-on on the "foreign travel" project
9th lord People manager — in charge of those working on the project
Rahu (karaka) Project manager — whose agenda it finally is
9th lord conjunct Rahu People-manager and project-manager are "lunch buddies" — they cooperate, project gets done

[!TIP] If 9th lord and Rahu are conjunct, Rahu will get the foreign-travel agenda executed even without being in the 9th house itself.

Charts to examine: Rashi and D4 (Chaturthamsa) for foreign-travel matters.


🔮 Puzzle Chart — Michael Jackson

Birth data: August 29, 1958 | 11:44 PM Eastern Standard Time (UTC −5) | Gary, Indiana, USA Coordinates: 87°20'47" W, 41°35'36" N

[!IMPORTANT] The teacher notes Indiana time zones are complex — some parts observe EST (UTC −5), others CST (UTC −6). Always verify time zone accuracy; an error shifts the chart by one hour.


📊 Dasamsa Analysis — Career & Image

Career Indicators in Dasamsa

Factor Placement Significance
Dasamsa Lagna Leo Sun is the Lagna lord
Lagna lord Sun 5th house House of popularity, recognition, following
10th lord Venus Conjunct 5th lord Jupiter (Scorpio) Raja Yoga — 5th + 10th lords combined
Mars (4th & 9th lord) 6th house, exalted in Capricorn Exalted Yoga Karaka — great luck and lucky breaks
Arudha Lagna Aries (Mars-ruled) Image: dynamic, aggressive, go-getter
Ketu in Arudha Lagna Aries "Headless / crazy wacko" OR spiritual image

[!NOTE] Comparison with Aishwarya Rai's chart: She also has Leo Lagna in Dasamsa with Venus–Jupiter conjunction, but in Sagittarius (Jupiter strong → more following/adulation). Michael Jackson's combination is in Scorpio (Venus aspects 10th house → more actual achievement). The teacher concludes Jackson's karma (10th house) is actually stronger, though she has more crazy fan-following.

5th vs. 10th House: Following vs. Achievement

"All the adulation that you get for what you did is the fifth house. All the following that you have is the fifth house… But what the person actually achieved — what you achieve is tenth house."

  • 5th lord stronger → More following than deserved
  • 10th lord stronger → More actual achievement
  • Both conjunct → Correspondence between adulation and work

[!TIP] If Raja Yoga-giving planets aspect Arudha Lagna by Rasi Drishti, the professional achievement directly builds the public image. Use Rasi Drishti (not Graha Drishti) on Arudha Lagna — these are permanent, life-long influences.

Mars (Yoga Karaka) in 6th House — Exaltation Rule

"To see whether exaltation or debilitation is good, you have to see which houses he wants [i.e., his lordship]."

  • 9th lord exalted → Excellent (lucky breaks come easily)
  • 4th lord exalted → Excellent (comfort, happiness secured)
  • 8th lord exalted → Unfortunate
  • 6th lord exalted → Unfortunate

Mars as 4th + 9th lord (Yoga Karaka) exalted in 6th house = Very fortunate in career; lucky breaks come without effort.

"These kind of people who have the ninth lord exalted in Dasamsa, they will have lot of luck. Breaks will come very easily for them."


Navamsa = chart of abilities and Dharma.

Sun and Moon for Musical Ability

Planet Type of Musical Ability
☽ Moon Sense of melody, singing
☀️ Sun Sense of beat and rhythm

Rule: If Sun or Moon are in trines in Navamsa or influence Navamsa Lagna, the native has musical/singing ability.

In Jackson's Navamsa:

  • Moon = Lagna lord, exalted
  • Sun = in Lagna

→ Both Sun and Moon strongly influence Navamsa Lagna → Strong singing ability confirmed.

[!NOTE] For poetic/lyric-writing ability, look for Venusian influence on the 3rd house in Navamsa. Venus = poetry; Mercury = analytical prose.


🗓️ Sthitipravesa Annual Charts — Imprisonment Outlook

Sthitipravesa charts (annual/Tithi Pravesha) are used for short-term 1–3 year forecasting.

Bandhana Sahamam — The Imprisonment Lot

This special lot (Sahamam) is calculated in the annual chart. Its lord and its placement indicate potential imprisonment or confinement.

flowchart TD
    A[Which year are we examining?] --> B[Find Hora Lord — ruler of the year]
    B --> C[Analyze Hora Lord in Rashi chart AND Dasamsa]
    C --> D[Find Bandhana Sahamam position in annual chart]
    D --> E{Is Bandhana Sahamam lord connected to 12th house/lord?}
    E -->|Yes, strongly| F[Imprisonment likely that year]
    E -->|No or weak| G[Imprisonment not indicated]

Year-by-Year Analysis

Sthitipravesa Year Hora Lord Key Indicators Verdict
2004–2005 (Aug) Mars Mars in 9th with Sun, Mercury; Bandhana Sahamam lord Saturn — weak connection to 12th Imprisonment not strongly indicated
2005–2006 (Aug) Saturn Saturn = 6th/7th lord in 12th house; Bandhana Sahamam at 27° Pisces, Rahu at 22° Pisces nearby Mixed — some problem possible, may escape
2006–2007 (Aug) Mercury Mercury (Lagna + 10th lord) in 12th house; Sun (12th lord) in 12th; Bandhana Sahamam in Taurus, lord Venus also in 12th Very strong imprisonment indication

[!WARNING] In the 2006–2007 annual chart, Bandhana Sahamam lord (Venus) AND twelfth lord (Sun) are BOTH in the 12th house with the Lagna lord (Mercury) who is also the Hora lord. This is an unusually potent combination.

Comparison with Swami Jayendra Saraswati: He had a similar combination (Mercury in 12th house) when he was imprisoned, though Jackson's combination is more potent (twelfth lord is actually present there).

Predicted Dasha Periods for Imprisonment (within 2006–07 year)

Dasha Period Dates Significance
Sun Dasha (annual) Aug 21 – Sep 10, 2006 Sun = 12th lord; first candidate
Mercury Dasha Nov 25, 2006 – Jan 20, 2007 Lagna lord in 12th; own results
Venus Dasha Jun 3 – Aug 10, 2007 Most likely — Venus is Bandhana Sahamam lord; Sun exchanges results with Venus

"If you are a fan of Michael Jackson, you can do pujas for him." (laughs)


🌀 Vimshottari Dasha — Long-Term Outlook

Dasha Selection Process

The teacher walks through conditional dasha eligibility:

Dasha Condition Applicable?
Chatura Dasha Lagna in same sign in Rashi and Navamsa (Vargottama) No (Taurus Rashi, Cancer Navamsa)
Visaptati Sama Dasha 7th lord in Lagna or Lagna lord in 7th No
Dwadashottari Dasha Lagna in Venusian Amsa No
Saptahamsha Dasha Sun in Lagna No
Chaturthi Sama Dasha 10th lord in 10th house No
Vimshottari Dasha Universal fallback Yes

Key Vimshottari Periods

Dasha Period Key Indications
Mercury (current) Long Mercury Dasha Mercury = 2nd + 11th lord in 5th from Arudha Lagna → raise in image; Raja Yoga (4th + 5th lords) in Rashi → Vishnu's blessing
Ketu From Feb 2006 Ketu + Mars in 12th house with 12th lord → imprisonment, losses, inner retrospection
Venus From ~2013 Lagna lord Venus, well-placed, Raja Yoga in Dasamsa → New lease of life

[!WARNING] Gati Lagna (power/fame indicator) is in the 12th house. This shows he will be famous in his imprisonment — media frenzy, extensively covered. Historical parallel: A serial killer with Gati Lagna in 12th became a celebrity when jailed.

[!TIP] "When Venus Dasha comes [2013], there'll be a new Michael Jackson… I strongly expect that that's not the end of his career. The best of his career may actually come after he comes out of prison."

Guru Chanda Yoga Warning (Rashi chart 6th house)

Jupiter + Rahu in any house = Manushya Hitya combination — potential for big litigation when that house is activated.

House Effect of Jupiter + Rahu
Lagna Problems in intelligence development; health issues
6th Big litigation when correct dasas activate
7th Serious marriage problems once in lifetime
9th Problems relating to father

Remedy for Rahu afflicting Sun: Pray to Jupiter. Remedy for Rahu afflicting Jupiter: Pray to Sun. If both Sun and Jupiter are together with Rahu, they defend each other — better than either alone.


🌀 Narayana Dasha of Dasamsa

Computing the Dasamsa Narayana Dasha

Principle: For any divisional chart DN, the controlling house = Nth house (e.g., D10 → 10th house; D9 → 9th house; D24 → 12th house; D20 → 8th house).

flowchart TD
    A[Select divisional chart DN] --> B[Controlling house = Nth house in Rashi chart]
    B --> C[Who rules that house? Find the lord(s)]
    C --> D[Take those lords to the divisional chart]
    D --> E[Compare strength of lords in DN chart]
    E --> F{Which lord is stronger?}
    F -->|More planets, Jupiter/Mercury/dispositor aspects| G[Stronger lord wins]
    G --> H[Find sign of stronger lord in DN]
    H --> I[Take that sign as new Lagna]
    I --> J[Compare sign vs. 7th from it for strength]
    J --> K[Stronger sign = starting point of Narayana Dasha]
    K --> L[Apply Brahma/Shiva/Vishnu progression based on sign type and Ketu/Saturn exceptions]

Strength Rules for Finding Starting Sign

  1. Count planets co-joined (more = stronger)
  2. Count Rasi Drishti from Jupiter, Mercury, and dispositor (more = stronger)
  3. Exaltation/debilitation

Special exceptions:

  • Ketu in starting sign → Reverse direction (odd→backward; even→forward)
  • Saturn in starting sign → Always go forward, always use Brahma's progression (sequential, sign-by-sign)

Dasamsa Narayana Dasha Results for Michael Jackson

Dasha Approx. Period Activation Verdict
Sagittarius 1986–1997 5th house with Sun (Lagna lord) Huge popularity — peak years as entertainer
Capricorn following 6th house with exalted 9th lord Mars Lucky breaks — strong career
Scorpio next Raja Yoga (Venus + Jupiter) Big name, major entertainer

"These are the three houses… those are the dashas when he actually rose, became a big entertainer… He's so popular that everybody in the world knows him, not just in US."


📚 D24 Narayana Dasha — Learning & Occult Knowledge

D24 (Siddhamsa) = Chart of learning, knowledge, and evolution as a person.

Houses Important for Occult Knowledge (taking 8th as Lagna)

House From Lagna Meaning in Occult Context
8th Lagna Your aptitude for occult knowledge — the seed
11th 4th from 8th Learning occult knowledge (4th = learning from any lagna)
5th 10th from 8th Applying/practising occult knowledge; karma
2nd 7th from 8th Making predictions; desire to speak knowledge

[!NOTE] D24 is not just a chart of learning a subject. It is a chart of evolution as a person, of getting humility, of giving up your identity — because it is based on the 12th house seed.

Computing D24 Narayana Dasha

Controlling house for D24 = 12th house (because 24 → 12th house by modulo 12 rule).

Process:

  1. Find 12th lord in Rashi chart (e.g., Venus)
  2. Locate Venus in D24 chart
  3. Take that sign as working Lagna for D24 Narayana Dasha computation
  4. Compare that sign vs. its 7th for strength → start dashas from stronger

Student Chart Examples

Seshu (Sriram)'s D24: Sep 16, 1961 | 2:22 PM IST | Secunderabad, India

  • Running Libra Dasha (Sep 2004 – Sep 2011) in D24 Narayana Dasha
  • Libra = 8th house in D24 containing Jupiter (A8 = manifested occult knowledge)
  • Prediction: "This is a very auspicious period… after September [2004] he will start making real progress [in astrology]."

Sriram's D24: Aug 31, 1965 | 2:09:27 AM IST | Kakinada, India

  • Running Sagittarius Dasha in D24 Narayana Dasha
  • Sagittarius = 11th house (learning occult knowledge)
  • Jupiter (Sagittarius lord) is strongly placed in 9th house of D24 with Sun and Mars
  • Predictions:
    1. He will find a very important guru who guides him in the spiritual path
    2. He will start writing — books, articles, or communication about astrology

Sasanka's D24: Feb 25, 1963 | 8:45:29 PM IST | Nellore, India | 79°58'E, 14°26'N

  • Running Capricorn/Ketu period
  • Capricorn = 4th house of learning with Saturn (Yoga Karaka, 4th + 5th lord) in own house
  • Saturn aspects 8th, 5th, 11th, and 2nd houses → "The link between all those is Saturn"
  • Strong period for any Mercurial/Ketu-related learning (astrology, computers, IT)

D24 Lagna Lord = Intelligence Behind Learning

"The lagna lord shows how you use your intelligence in that particular divisional chart. Lagna in D24 is you from the point of view of learning. Lagna in D7 is you from the point of view of children."

Arudha Lagna in Various Divisional Charts

Division Arudha Lagna Meaning
D1 (Rashi) Overall public image in life
D10 (Dasamsa) Career/professional image
D24 Image in learning/academic environments
D12 (Dvadasamsa) Image as known to parents and ancestors

"Arudha Lagna is not just the image that people have in their minds, but it is what you project, what you help rise. Aroha is the risen one."


🌀 Mermaid — Annual Chart Imprisonment Assessment

flowchart TD
    A[Annual Sthitipravesa Chart] --> B[Identify Hora Lord]
    B --> C[How is Hora Lord in Rashi/Dasamsa?]
    C --> D[Find Bandhana Sahamam in annual chart]
    D --> E[Find Bandhana Sahamam lord]
    E --> F{Is 12th lord + Bandhana Sahamam lord both in 12th house?}
    F -->|Yes| G[Imprisonment very strongly indicated]
    F -->|Partial| H[Some confinement/trouble possible]
    F -->|No| I[No imprisonment that year]
    G --> J[Which dasha in that year will trigger it?]
    J --> K[Planet most benefic exchanges results with most malefic — use exchange rule]

🔗 Cross-References

  • Class 30: Vikram Singh's chart — prediction of contract job (confirmed in this class)
  • Swami Jayendra Saraswati chart (covered ~2 months prior): Similar Mercury in 12th pattern gave imprisonment — Jackson's case is more potent
  • Aishwarya Rai's Dasamsa (covered long back): Leo Lagna, Venus+Jupiter in Sagittarius — comparison of 5th vs. 10th lord strength
  • Earlier classes (1–5): Project manager / people manager / karaka analogy (explicitly referenced: "go back to beginning classes")
  • Narayana Dasha basics: Covered in earlier classes — three principles: (1) see what sign Narayana activates; (2) take Dasha sign/7th as progress Lagna; (3) use entry chart for Antardasha

📝 Sanskrit / Technical Terms

Term Meaning
Sthitipravesa Annual chart (Tithi Pravesha / Solar return variant used here)
Hora lord Ruling planet of a given year in Sthitipravesa
Bandhana Sahamam Lot/point of imprisonment/confinement
Arudha Lagna (AL) Image projection — sign as distant from Lagna lord as Lagna lord is from Lagna
Gati Lagna (GL) Fame/power indicator; teacher notes he hasn't fully rectified this here
Guru Chanda Yoga Jupiter + Rahu conjunction; also called Manushya Hitya — indicates big problems
Vimal Yoga Twelfth lord alone in 12th house — actually good yoga (spirituality, expenses are contained)
Viparita Raja Yoga Dusthana (6, 8, 12) lords exchanging or placed in each other's houses → anxiety but ultimate victory
Yoga Karaka Planet that owns both a Kendra and a Trikona — highly benefic for that Lagna
Pardesha Foreign land / abroad
Pura Punya Past-life merit, accumulated good karma; 9th house
Hamsa Dignity subdivision within a divisional chart (e.g., Sukarma, Gopala, Govinda, Madana)

💡 Key Insights & Teachings

  1. Annual charts for short-term, natal for long-term: Use Sthitipravesa for 2–3 year windows; for open-ended questions (how long in jail, when will he come out), go to natal chart Vimshottari Dasha.

  2. Divisional Narayana Dasha is most accurate: More accurate than Vimshottari or conditional dashas for events related to a specific life area. It connects the physical Rashi with the environment shown in the divisional chart.

  3. Rashi = physical reality; Divisional = environment: "Are you driving in a Benz or on a bicycle? That physical reality is from Rashi. The professional environment is from Dasamsa."

  4. Free will, probability, and the astrologer's duty: The teacher delivers a substantial philosophical teaching:

    • Nothing is ever 100% certain — "maybe 70–95%"
    • If God likes you, he will give you a jolt to show you're wrong
    • Best action is to act on best-guess probabilities
    • Even imperfect knowledge helps — "by telling someone 'this is a bad time, don't change now,' you may be saving them from much worse"
    • Remedial measures work probabilistically, not certainly
    • Establishing astrology as science requires funding, standardization, and concerted research effort — the teacher expects this within 10–15 years
  5. Astrology and science: "If you use just Rasi chart and Rasi Narayana Dasha, it is an art. If you use divisional chart and Narayana Dasha of the divisional chart, it borders on being a science."